rointheta:

Make Me Choose
txxrdis asked: Jack Harkness or Mickey Smith?


taiey:

A thing that makes me sad: no one remembers Mickey.


Oh my god, it is still there! Although it’s very obviously an official BBC website now, back in the day (2005) it was more of a viral, homemade-looking thing that you’d accidentally stumble across.
(whoisdoctorwho.co.uk.)

Oh my god, it is still there! Although it’s very obviously an official BBC website now, back in the day (2005) it was more of a viral, homemade-looking thing that you’d accidentally stumble across.

(whoisdoctorwho.co.uk.)


Anonymous: Is it, do you think, paranoid to look at "Rose Tyler, defender of the Earth" as another tiny gibe against Mickey? Because he introduced himself in AoG as "Mickey Smith, defending the Earth" but then the Doctor goes and gives it to Rose and of course you can't nickname two people almost identically so for as long as people avoid pick it over Bad Wolf for Rose he gets shunted down to Idiot or whatever... 

No, that’s a good point! I still think fandom makes too much of the nicknames, most of them are either used once or never used at all, but oh it makes me so sad to see him constantly referred to as “Mickey the Idiot” when he gave himself a name!



xingshining:

sarah531:

surfingwavefunctions:

sarah531:

Russel T Davies’s quote about Rose from the Radio Times in 2005 -“when she meets the Doctor, she gets the chance to show she’s better than the life she’s been leading” really does strike me as being incredibly classist. I haven’t seen it in context so that may not be what he intended, but - think…

It’s explicit in the show itself - Rose says so in The Parting of the Ways - that the “better life” has nothing to do with the glamour of time and space travel, but with standing up for what is right, being brave and refusing to just let things happen. Rose even tells Mickey “you know, he showed you too”, and that’s before Mickey ever travelled in the TARDIS. It’s a recurring theme throughout Russell T Davies’ era, all those one-off characters from all walks of life that find it within themselves to step up and save the day, whichever way they can, even if means putting their lives on the line. You then see the effect of this on Jackie, who does something very brilliant and proactive in getting a big, yellow truck.

Which is good, very good (I like that line) but - Jackie and Mickey do put their lives on the line in all sorts of ways, they do stand up for what is right, and yet they’re ridiculed and belittled in a way Rose never is. Jackie’s the butt of jokes in nearly every episode she’s in and she’s not even allowed to fly the TARDIS with everyone else in Journey’s End. Mickey fares even worse: he’s pretty much outright said to be the TARDIS pet in The Girl In The Fireplace (thanks, Moffat) and the beginning of Rise Of The Cybermen shows Rose and Ten bullying Mickey like a pair of schoolchildren. Plus it’s quite telling that even nearly ten years down the line (!) fandom still falls back on Nine’s nonsensical nickname for Mickey, The Idiot, as if he wasn’t as brave and brilliant as all the rest of the companions.

(I will apparently never be over Mickey’s treatment by the show.)

RTD told us a good thing - one of the best things about Doctor Who- but I think on the whole he really failed to live up to those words. Even with Martha- she was brave, loyal, kind, clever, wonderful, but when she tells the Doctor “You know what? I am good,” all he can muster up is an ‘mmmm’.

*sigh* No. Mickey was explicitly compared with K-9 in School Reunion, the episode BEFORE The Girl in the Fireplace, written by Toby Whithouse. Mickey was actually written with some sympathy in The Girl in the Fireplace: Rose was happy to have him there (which is more consistent with her character than School Reunion) and they had adventures together.

Apart from that, I agree with everything you said.

"You’re not keeping the horse!"

"I let you keep Mickey!"

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http://sarah531.tumblr.com/post/79300744408/russel-t-daviess-quote-about-rose-from-the-radio

surfingwavefunctions:

sarah531:

Russel T Davies’s quote about Rose from the Radio Times in 2005 -“when she meets the Doctor, she gets the chance to show she’s better than the life she’s been leading” really does strike me as being incredibly classist. I haven’t seen it in context so that may not be what he intended, but - think…

It’s explicit in the show itself - Rose says so in The Parting of the Ways - that the “better life” has nothing to do with the glamour of time and space travel, but with standing up for what is right, being brave and refusing to just let things happen. Rose even tells Mickey “you know, he showed you too”, and that’s before Mickey ever travelled in the TARDIS. It’s a recurring theme throughout Russell T Davies’ era, all those one-off characters from all walks of life that find it within themselves to step up and save the day, whichever way they can, even if means putting their lives on the line. You then see the effect of this on Jackie, who does something very brilliant and proactive in getting a big, yellow truck.

Which is good, very good (I like that line) but - Jackie and Mickey do put their lives on the line in all sorts of ways, they do stand up for what is right, and yet they’re ridiculed and belittled in a way Rose never is. Jackie’s the butt of jokes in nearly every episode she’s in and she’s not even allowed to fly the TARDIS with everyone else in Journey’s End. Mickey fares even worse: he’s pretty much outright said to be the TARDIS pet in The Girl In The Fireplace (thanks, Moffat) and the beginning of Rise Of The Cybermen shows Rose and Ten bullying Mickey like a pair of schoolchildren. Plus it’s quite telling that even nearly ten years down the line (!) fandom still falls back on Nine’s nonsensical nickname for Mickey, The Idiot, as if he wasn’t as brave and brilliant as all the rest of the companions.

(I will apparently never be over Mickey’s treatment by the show.)

RTD told us a good thing - one of the best things about Doctor Who- but I think on the whole he really failed to live up to those words. Even with Martha- she was brave, loyal, kind, clever, wonderful, but when she tells the Doctor “You know what? I am good,” all he can muster up is an ‘mmmm’.


A cornucopia of Companions.

(background is one of the free ones from the BBC site)


taiey:

sarah531:

No but I have a lot of feelings about Mickey

His father left

His mother…left? Still not sure what happened there

His grandmother died and he blamed himself

Rose left and everyone blamed him

Literally everyone he ever cared about left him, he might very well have been going through his adult years feeling like absolute shit, and then he meets the Doctor and has to put up with a good few months of ‘ha ha you’re an idiot’ bullying from him as well (and even Jack is hostile on first meeting him! Why?) and basically he had every reason ever to undo or betray the Doctor, Rose, Jackie and everyone associated with them but he didn’t he kept helping them save the world and became best friends with the woman who’d spent a year harassing him and I JUST HAVE A LOT OF FEELINGS and they all revolve around “Doctor why the could you never see what a remarkable man was right there in front of you”

Just the worst bit is—in World War 3, he absolutely earns the Doctor’s respect, at least in private. But then it just disappears and he has to do it all over again.

Oh yeah…

>:(


consultingcapaldi:

An open letter to people who think Mickey was dumb and useless:

  1. Defended Jackie with a baseball bat against a massive alien with massive claws
  2. Saved the world from the Slitheen by (with The Doctor’s help) hacking into a top secret military website and firing missiles at Downing Street
  3. Saved the universe (and The Doctor) by opening the Tardis console with a biiiiig yellow truck
  4. Once again defended Jackie and Rose against a spinning Christmas tree of death armed with only a flimsy chair
  5. Realized that he and Rose were no more, stopped pining over her, and left her to be happy with The Doctor while he and Jake went off to save the (parallel) world from Cybermen
  6. Managed to get pretty deep into Torchwood under a false name, despite all of the employees having at least a basic level of psychic training
  7. Became a massive BAMF and saved Sarah Jane (alongside Jackie) from the Daleks
  8. Hacked into incredibly top secret UNIT files. Again.